tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.comments2011-06-26T16:38:53.143-07:00Indus HeraldAziz Narejohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09730880516840723985noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-84720766037049672132011-06-26T16:38:53.143-07:002011-06-26T16:38:53.143-07:00This was published on May 12th. Due to some proble...This was published on May 12th. Due to some problem with the blog, it has been re-posted.Aziz Narejohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730880516840723985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-19669119009401729652011-05-01T19:16:26.912-07:002011-05-01T19:16:26.912-07:00This comment is written by Saifullah Shaikh:
It r...This comment is written by Saifullah Shaikh:<br /><br />It reminds me of a discussion with a friend (an old DSF comrade) at Shah Latif University in Khairpur several years back. At one point in the discussion, we concluded that the PPP was okay and acceptable for Establishment/Military and their Foreign Masters WITHOUT Benazir Bhutto (and of course ZAB as a continuity to eliminate leadership of Sindh/democratic forces). At that time She was in Exile and we were of the opinion against her return to Pakistan too!<br /><br />People like Altaf and Nawaz Sharif understood it and they saved their lives but we are emotional/simple people and miscalculate our own politics. Now that Bhuttos are eliminated, Zardari’s PPP is acceptable to them and no doubt he has converted the PPP into a Pro-Establishment party and his hand-picked PM Yousuf Raza Gilani has stated couple of times that FIRST TIME IN PAKISTAN’S HISTORY, PPP and Establishment are on the same side (well, if not on the same page!)<br /><br />We should be more afraid of the sinister designs of converting Sindhis in minority in their homeland in near future. Above all what I can foresee here is that ZARDARI IS CREATING ANOTHER PARALLEL NEW rich SINDH including/consisting of Thatta/Zulfiqarabad/Karachi/Hyderabad and poor Sindhis will be left on the mercy of feudal lords, Pirs and other looters--------it is high time to pay attention to Zardari’s long-term plan, which ultimately will be high-jacked by anti-Sindhi Establishment and he too either will be sitting in Dubai palaces or …! And as a consequence ONLY SINDHIS WILL BE SUFFERERS. Sincerely, Saif, AL.Aziz Narejohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730880516840723985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-39329030545083464502011-04-25T02:14:20.249-07:002011-04-25T02:14:20.249-07:00PML-N (or any other party) will be dead & buri...PML-N (or any other party) will be dead & buried in Sindh if it insists on division of the province. Its leaders then can only visit Sindh to offer Fateha over the grave of their party.Aziz Narejohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730880516840723985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-87006003002603669522011-04-25T01:23:39.417-07:002011-04-25T01:23:39.417-07:00Shahbaz Sharif's statement about division of S...Shahbaz Sharif's statement about division of Sindh must not be taken lightly. It must be strongly condemned and PML-N functionaries & activities must be boycotted. An emergency session of Sindh Assembly must be called to condemn Shahbaz Sharif's "fitna". Please call MPAs from your constituency and ask them to requisition Sindh Assembly session.Aziz Narejohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730880516840723985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-72779753295726262292011-04-09T12:54:50.197-07:002011-04-09T12:54:50.197-07:00By the way nice job being done, collection is so g...By the way nice job being done, collection is so good...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-17807498237879177312011-04-09T12:49:41.001-07:002011-04-09T12:49:41.001-07:00Although Sindh doesn't get the share as it des...Although Sindh doesn't get the share as it deserve but we ourselves or responsible for it, because we do not fight for our rights, If we have been fought or we fight now it is not too late to get our stolen rights, but it is only because we do not stand for our rights. While we have scene the cultural day, Ekta day, Sindhu day, topi ajrak day if we gather at one platform like these days on our burning issues like education, health and such other things no way that we don't get the aim, because if such a large number of people stand together for the solution of problem no way that any one could neglect. So until we are not standing for our rights we would always remain like slaves...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-40729246204820239142011-04-08T10:14:57.915-07:002011-04-08T10:14:57.915-07:00Excellent work, I look forward to the outcome of t...Excellent work, I look forward to the outcome of this article.<br /><br />You have been very leneint with the Muhajirs and the Pathans. They should vacate Sindh in general and Karachi in particular. Their presence will always be a threat to sindh.RChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04328405219664070160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-38703828828614230242011-04-08T09:37:52.033-07:002011-04-08T09:37:52.033-07:00Waiting for the next postWaiting for the next postRChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04328405219664070160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-48493082288613237852011-04-07T20:09:15.047-07:002011-04-07T20:09:15.047-07:00Haider Bhurgri's comments: Mir’s ramblings aro...Haider Bhurgri's comments: Mir’s ramblings arouse sentimental nostalgic feelings among people like me. I appreciate his efforts to impressively articulate the events without being marked by his bias or prejudice that he may have being highly polarized. I wish he continues it but would really like him to reflect upon conspirational mechnations at work then to sabotage the left movement – the failings in terms of outreach, access to the working class, weak strategies and limiting their discussions over planning and approach while sitting in urban restuarants etc that may have caused the decline! Some comparisan with ndian left movements and its success …… etc etc<br />Haider Bhurgri Islamabad<br />PS: I had been trying post my comment on Mir’s original writing latest episode on English Version of Indus Herald but there seems to be some technical problem hindering the posting to be addedAziz Narejohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730880516840723985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-66595183287033940082011-04-07T17:50:49.698-07:002011-04-07T17:50:49.698-07:00hey Mir why have you disappeared from facebook? Pa...hey Mir why have you disappeared from facebook? PashaUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09936531942612808177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-36973042217973671542011-04-04T13:44:21.413-07:002011-04-04T13:44:21.413-07:00nice effort sir you have done great job but there ...nice effort sir you have done great job but there is no your own point of view or perspective there that struggle of hyder bux jatoi is better in the name of class struggle or g m syed was in the name of national question i think both basic elements are essential in revolution thanks sirnabi sohohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04596202135590130561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-41409371236383745162011-03-18T15:07:17.959-07:002011-03-18T15:07:17.959-07:00@Ahsan,,,,,,,,,,, I have not read this article yet...@Ahsan,,,,,,,,,,, I have not read this article yet but i have read your interesting comment. I pray God motivates you and your Nation and real Democracy "comes" in pakistan. 4 punjabi guys committed suicide yesterday . I can not understand the reasons behind increasng suicide incedents in punjab while mejority of you have been motivated as you have shown in poor american Davis case.promithiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17292778937998795124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-41575474270211466782011-03-17T23:32:26.886-07:002011-03-17T23:32:26.886-07:00Thank you very much Dear Aziz Saeen for such an im...Thank you very much Dear Aziz Saeen for such an important information on the issue and all events and step by step developments are undertsandable. I ahve to say that;<br />1. There are didplomatic realities and also secret wars of agencies all over the world and perhaps no any country could be spared for its role and interest in this regard<br />2. Apart from the interest served through diplomatic interventions and secret wars; there are worst affectees as well for these happenings. In case the affctee is common citizen from weaker countries + a country with political insrability, certainly become worst affctees.<br />3. In Raymond case some political groups and parties found it to serve and further their political aspirations and forward their agenda as well as to gain more popularity in pakistan; ultimately leading Pakistani society towards more extremism and ending the culture of rationale and tolerance. Here I want make a clarity that perhaps we need rationality in every aspect of life but I mean rationality and tolerance that will deacrease in our society in result of way right wing political parties are trying to deal the matter.<br />4. An important aspect of the incident, just a impartial analysis of affected families firstly they lost lives of their family members and after they were expected to stay firm and speak for National prestige as interpreted by these right wing parties. <br />5. Finally, I just want to raise a question in a particular scenari that suppose there was no any pressure on the affected families from national and international power corridors as mentioned in the above report, nor from mob justice and national honour promoting parties. And families were totally free to decide what ever they could, courts were free and impartial, Raymond was under trial with possibilities of execution. In that scenario affected families have an offer of blood money as happened - WHAT WOULD HAVE DONE BY 18 LEGAL HEIRS? the question required an honest and rational answer.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08296657699082840166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-9654645010950991852011-03-17T17:29:11.098-07:002011-03-17T17:29:11.098-07:00I think Raymond Davis released is good sign for bo...I think Raymond Davis released is good sign for both country longterm relation but isi break that network how raymond davis bilde in Pakistan and other massage isi gave to CIA donot play in side Pakistan and what I think in future Pakistani land not safe for USA and I believe the war on terrier will be finish this year or next year and USA will find the safe way to quit afganistan and this is not bosible without Pakistan and one good think for Pakistani people as wall becouse of Raymond Davis the will motivate and real democracy will come and16/3/2011date bring lot of changes in Pakistan and afganistan god blasé PakistanUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02481415835041396079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-69804918691443823432011-03-15T22:32:14.825-07:002011-03-15T22:32:14.825-07:00Investigation into who (persons by name)issued and...Investigation into who (persons by name)issued and who gave clearance for his entry visa into Pakistan would disclose the government functionaries who through negligence or willful connivance help such agents free passage into Pakistan. The documents with signatures must be available in our Embassy in Washington, our Foreign Office, and vetting agencies ISI and IB.<br />Government functionaries who obey illegal orders and claim they were following orders are as guilty as those giving illegal orders.<br />Constitutional protection of government servants from having to obey illegal orders/political pressure (fear of losing job) was suggested to the Rabbani Committee that drafted the 18th Amendment. Our suggestion was rejected.<br />Admiral (Retd.)Fasih Bokhari<br />Pakistan Ex Servicemen AssociationUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12717086040425541047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-15967867613344392602011-03-10T20:26:20.832-08:002011-03-10T20:26:20.832-08:00It is a big question for CJ Mr. Chaudhry?
If he cl...It is a big question for CJ Mr. Chaudhry?<br />If he claims for the supermacy of justice & law than there is a question that<br />"Where does it exists?"<br />He himself has given two years extension to registrar supreme court and is also begging an other extension in the tenures of Mr. Ramaday & other justice of SC.<br />Now this is a question of the civil society that "WHY THESE DOUBLE STANDARDS?"<br />if political government is taking any decision than it is not acceptable to S.C but that they by themselves are taking same nature decisions.<br />It is very much clear that if the same tendency will continue than it will invite societical deterioration.<br />one must have to think for its ultimate consequences.<br /><br />by:<br />MAHAA RAJA DAAHAR VEESARUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12177033184591486971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-51374738112054897962011-03-02T03:17:06.844-08:002011-03-02T03:17:06.844-08:00As you stated the revolution requires a common goa...As you stated the revolution requires a common goal for unification. Unification can only come when you have a common culture and language. The British who established Pakistan never wanted this state to be successful state. The policy of Pakistan was formed by the British and then they made sure that the power remains in hand of Punjabis and a further complication was introduced by ensuring that policy makers are Shia and Qadiyanies. Ali Bhoto isolated the Qadinais from political power by 1972; however, he could do anything about the Qadinies influence in the ARMY. The forced annexation of Baluchistan increased the problem of Pakistan but the Gold stolen from Baluchistan in truck loads gave Pakistan the ability to trade with rest of the world. Since Pakistan is not a Nation but a subjugation of Nations, hence to run this country you either need a very strong army or national have equal stakes in the formed country. The Pakistan elite opted for a strong army Punjab approach. A strong army requires an uninterrupted supply of money. The budget of the army was secured by creating a bogie man in the form of India. The elite ensured with the help of British that this army only consisted of Punjabis and the civil bureaucracy consisting of Punjabis and Urdu speaking immigrant from India. In a nut nation Pakistan translate as a state of Punjabis and Urdu speaking. The implementation of Urdu as a national language completed the wheel of colonial rule. The sphere of influence over Pakistan shifted from British to American in 1950’s. <br /> Pakistan maintained control over Baluch, Pathan and Sindhy by giving limited privileges to few key Baluch and Sindhy. Our young mind (speaking as a Baluch) were thrown into confusion by the state, the state divert their attention from fight against colonial rule to a fight against Ideological (Communist, Socialist, Religion, Traditionalist and Modernity) and Class (Sardar, Nawabs, Rich, Poor and destitute). The result of introducing ideological and class struggle were devastating to Baluch people, our best minds became isolated from Baluch at large and only managed to create an enclave of people who ridiculed religion over and political discussion ended over a whisky bottle. The ideology of Marx and Engels in Baluchistan has failed and it can never be successful in Baluchistan, a colonial economic infrastructure can never have a proletariat (Industrial Working Class which is backbone of Capitalists economy). The intellectual acknowledge this fact but believed the proletariat from Punjab will come to their rescue on the basis of solidarity of class struggle. For such a change to occur you need to change the very nature of Punjab culture; which is an impossible task. If only our Baluch, Pathan and Sindhy realise that the Punjabis are not even willing to adhere to principle of Islam as stated in the Holy Quran, which have far deep respect and roots in their culture then socialism would. Question is why the Punjabis will not rise against injustice? The answer is obvious the state of Punjab has been showered with modern industries best education and infrastructure; hence the proletariat of Punjab is quite happy with their armed forces and ruling elite. It is not in their interest to change the status quo and why should they? They have been given everything within the sphere of Pakistan. Yes there are poor and poor farmer in Punjab, so what? The state so far had an upper hand on Baluch movement but today the state grip has lost its grip, today Baluch (not all) have come to their senses and are fighting on nationalist ground. With the passage of time the intensity of killing of Baluch people by Army will increase and it will reach critical mass and those sitting on fence or have connection with Pakistan will NOT be accepted by the Baluch no matter what is their family background.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16652639595438947299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-13576049154296879312011-02-25T11:27:43.854-08:002011-02-25T11:27:43.854-08:00Mir you have done a great job history made easy pl...Mir you have done a great job history made easy please keep writing,I hope you remember me.<br />Shafik SidikiUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09041273980484695703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-22221144186623760612011-02-24T11:39:47.194-08:002011-02-24T11:39:47.194-08:00VERY GOOD WORK AND INFORMATIVEVERY GOOD WORK AND INFORMATIVEK_Kalhorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06805182357418154471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-87550235460531355242011-02-24T11:38:52.723-08:002011-02-24T11:38:52.723-08:00REALY VERY GOOD WORK U HAVE DONEREALY VERY GOOD WORK U HAVE DONEK_Kalhorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06805182357418154471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-78643446242300728892011-02-23T18:52:30.934-08:002011-02-23T18:52:30.934-08:00Comment by Haider Bhurgri:
"Great! I feel ind...Comment by Haider Bhurgri:<br />"Great! I feel indebted to Mir for jotting down his ramblings in the most honest way! The discourse is interesting and enlightening. However I feel Mir is capable of providing more in depth insight into the happenings in yester years rather than putting down cursory account. Nonetheless, his efforts to articulate events of one era deserve compliment. Keep it up dear Mir Thebo (though u have taken a hideout and left us here lurching for your company)"Aziz Narejohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730880516840723985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-32105886693009871682011-02-22T15:07:23.107-08:002011-02-22T15:07:23.107-08:00very interesting. Will be waiting for the next pos...very interesting. Will be waiting for the next post.Sanalandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13178012578798540661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-54314380671550997522011-02-20T16:20:23.259-08:002011-02-20T16:20:23.259-08:00a very informative description of the turns and tw...a very informative description of the turns and twists in sindhi politics. some politicians and their intentions in representing sindhis at nationatialand local political arena are coming to our knowledge through these blogs. mir thebo has taken a courageous step and others should follow him ttoo. thanks mir thebo. dr.qamar wahidUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17040976673630753786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-14863547305845371722011-02-12T19:31:49.163-08:002011-02-12T19:31:49.163-08:00I thought your post was interesting however I beg ...I thought your post was interesting however I beg to differ with you on both points of revolution and disintegration. The military wouldn't allow disintegration. Revolution isn't a possibility in Pakistan for several reasons. I will point out two. One the people of Pakistan are relatively free, they can express themselves while not a perfect federal democracy. The democratic system has potential. Two the The country would need a large middle classes of educated people to start a process of evolution to improve the federal democratic system. This may take a while to happen. but the country is still young and has a long way to go. Speaking from the point of view of young educate people they are not as entrenched in the ethnic and cultural divide of the people of partition. No doubt they love their ethnicity but they also love Pakistan and want success for the nation.<br /><br />Map corrections suggested: <br />NWFP is now Khyber Paktunkhwa<br /><br />Gilgit & Skardu and Jammu and Kashmir denote a separate one nation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8125738318944421214.post-20081899235333644612011-02-07T12:46:16.968-08:002011-02-07T12:46:16.968-08:00Dear Mir sahab:
I like your candour and the open s...Dear Mir sahab:<br />I like your candour and the open style with which you are approaching the subject. You could be a wonderful writer and narrator of this not so well known story of Pakistani left and its known and not so well-known players. <br />Please keep it up!<br />Best,<br />ijaz syed<br />408-838-0952Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07804314297369920137noreply@blogger.com